PROPHECY WEEKLY UPDATE (8) "THE HARBINGER: “A Fable Forbidden by Holy Bible" Joseph Chambers

"Last Generation Forums" :: Prophecy :: Joseph Chambers -Paw Creek Ministries :: THE HARBINGER: “A Fable Forbidden by Holy Bible
   [Search This Thread] [Add Bookmark] [Add Poll] [Reply] [Share Topic] [Print]
  Author Topic: THE HARBINGER: “A Fable Forbidden by Holy Bible (Read 1 time)
Michael James Stone Administrator ***** Site-Administrator member isonline [email] [send pm] Joined: May 2012 Gender: Male Posts: 543
 THE HARBINGER: “A Fable Forbidden by Holy Bible « Thread Started Today at 9:25am » [Quote] [Modify] [Delete]

[image] THE HARBINGER: “A Fable Forbidden by the Holy Bible” Tuesday, June 12th, 2012 ” The Holy Bible plainly forbids the use of mysterious fables or magical stories to teach Holy Scripture. A fable is strikingly different from a fiction book. A normal fiction is true to life experiences. It simply tells a real story with the use of fictional experiences and people. A fable involves the strange worlds of mysticism and psychic experiences. It also takes the paranormal and tries to make it normal. “The Harbinger” is a fable, or worse, it is a fairytale. Holy Scripture is extremely plain about the use of fables in concurrence with the Bible. In his first letter, Timothy warned the believers about this work of Satan. “For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. But watch thou in all things, endure afflictions, do the work of an evangelist, make full proof of thy ministry.” (2 Timothy 4: 3-5) Fables are a big focus of the world and especially of the spiritualistic subcultures. For our education of fables, let’s look at Barnes’ notes on the above scripture. “Neither give heed to fables – That is, that they should not bestow their attention on fables, or regard such trifles as of importance. The “fables” here referred to were probably the idle and puerile superstitions and conceits of the Jewish rabbis. The word rendered “fable” (μῦθος: muthos) means properly “speech” or “discourse,” and then fable or fiction, or a mystic discourse. Such things abounded among the Greeks as well as the Jews, but it is probable that the latter here are particularly intended. These were composed of frivolous and unfounded stories, which they regarded as of great importance, and which they seem to have desired to incorporate with the teachings of Christianity. Paul, who had been brought up amidst these superstitions, saw at once how they would tend to draw off the mind from the truth, and would corrupt the true religion. One of the most successful arts of the adversary of souls has been to mingle fable with truth; and when he cannot overthrow the truth by direct opposition, to neutralize it by mingling with it much that is false and frivolous.” (Barnes Notes on the Bible, Exposition Commentary Volume VI, 1 Timothy 1:4) Warren Wiersbe astutely observes “It is not likely that man-made fables will convict them of sin or make them want to repent! The result is a congregation of comfortable, professing Christians, listening to a comfortable, religious talk that contains no Bible doctrine. These people become the prey of every false cult because their lives lack a foundation in the Word of God. It is a recognized fact that most cultists were formerly members of churches. (Wiersbe, W: Bible Exposition Commentary, 2 Timothy 4:4) The Strong’s concordance was even stronger, ”Neither give heed to fables – Idle fancies; things of no moment; doctrines and opinions unauthenticated; silly legends, of which no people ever possessed a greater stock than the Jews. Their Talmud abounds with them; and the English reader may find them in abundance in Stehlin’s Jewish Traditions, 2 vols. 8vo.” Then he defined the word Fables (3454: Muthos). “Muthos refers to tales (a tale is a usually imaginative narrative of an event that often contains imagined or exaggerated elements) or fables (a fable can refer to a short fictitious story which teaches a moral lesson but in the NT fable is used only in a negative sense as something to be avoided because it is false and unreal) fabricated by the mind in contrast to reality. Muthos therefore refers to fictional tales in contrast to true accounts and represents manufactured stories that have no basis in fact. The Greek and Roman world abounded in stories about so-called “gods” which were nothing more than human speculations that in vain (and in error) tried to explain the world’s origin and life’s purpose and end!” (Clarke’s Commentary Volume VI, 1 Timothy 1:4) There is no question but the Bible forbids fables. “Neither give heed to fables and endless genealogies, which minister questions, rather than godly edifying which is in faith: so do.” (I Timothy 1:4) “But refuse profane and old wives’ fables, and exercise thyself rather unto godliness.” (I Timothy 4:7) “Not giving heed to Jewish fables, and commandments of men, that turn from the truth.” (Titus 1:14) “For we have not followed cunningly devised fables, when we made known unto you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but were eyewitnesses of his majesty.” ( II Peter 1:16) As we have learned more and more about this book, “The Harbinger”. it has becomes clear that it is a fable. It has really raised red flags of warning. Nothing in this book is believable. The Prophet is a fictional character, which means that his prophecies are also fictional. The entire book is called fictional except for his unfounded use of the Scripture. The documentations in the book are woven around the seals and harbingers in a style that creates a fabricated story or a fable. We call it a fable because the book is written around psychic activities and not the true Spiritual real world. Consider the use of the 9/11 catastrophe and connecting it with Isaiah 9:11. Remember that there has been approximately 2,700 years with the date 9/11. So there have been 2,700 9/11s since the warning was given to Isaiah. Not only is there many dates for that day, but the scripture was not divided into chapters and verses until long after the Holy Ghost gave this Prophesy to Isaiah the statesman Prophet. Abstractly connecting any date to a Bible verse with similar numbers has no Biblical legitimacy.It is altogether a fantasy story. Neither the sycamore tree nor the fig tree exists at Ground Zero. Nothing in the story is anything but the conjectures of a person. To make a sermon or a Bible lesson from a fable or a fictional story, if you demand it be called fiction, borders on the insane. The literary world will eventually laugh the Church to shame for believing a story with this level of dishonesty. You should never connect the infallible Word of God to the unreal imagination of men. This kind of surreal talk tends toward religion, but it is religion that ignores the warning of the Bible Prophets. I call this Luciferian Delusion. A mixed revelation is always a false message and it is Biblically dangerous. When elements of Truth are joined with methods of error, the result is confusion and the hardening of hearts. The Holy Bible is the most powerful declaration of right and wrong, good and bad, and truth and error in the world. If you take the Bible and choose a false Prophet to declare it, you muddy the message until it destroys the source. There is no question but the book, “THE HARBINGER” is just such a piece of literature. Does America need to repent? It is absolutely the only answer to stop the decline and destruction of our Nation. Is the author of this book a good decent man? I would suggest that he is indeed. Then how should the Church respond to a book that is clearly mixing truth about our nation and questionable things about our Bible? Discernment; clearly both Biblical discernment and wise interpretation of the Scriptures is the only choice. This book is a mixture of fiction and absolute declarations. Over and over the author declares that our response must be repentance and a total return to God. How do we obey the warning presented in a book of fiction? It is a literal impossibility for a book to be both a fictional work and a serious call for repentance. In the pulpit a fictional preacher would know better than to end with an altar call. He would be laughed out of town. The author states in the opening chapter, “How? How could an ancient mystery possibly…” “Affect you life? Your bank account? Your future? But it does. And it holds the key to America’s future…to the rise and fall of nations…to world history,…. And it’s not only a mystery, it’s a message, an alarm.” (The Harbinger, Cahn, page 3) So this book really is not meanst to be fictional at all. He is warning us that this book is the picture of, not just America, but the future of the World. Yet this work carries all the elements of a strange fable. The prophet never truly reveals himself. No one sees him but the author.  The seals are so mysterious that following them requires incredible imagination. Quotes from different people are woven together in a hodgepodge fashion. Yet, we are warned that if we do not repent we will be destroyed. And yet this message lacks the tried and true message of the Holy Bible in its call to repentance. Firstly, our Bible clearly warns us that it is unacceptable to superimpose prophetical truth from the Jewish dispensation onto the Church dispensation unless it is done by the Holy Bible. When scriptures are spoken by the prophets of God to Israel and then they are destroyed because they do not obey, that truth can be spiritually applied in all periods of history. But, the message must be applied spiritually and not loosely tied to events with absolute dictatorial commands. If we confuse the nation of Israel with the Church or America, we are guilty of “Replacement Theology. America cannot, in any sense of the truth, be compared to the Nation of Israel. We have never been a theocracy and we never will be until the millennial kingdom. To try and create a sense of post-millennialism or dominionism is utterly false and unacceptable to the certain Truth of the Pre-Tribulation Rapture. Our prophetic future is revealed in the Gospels of Matthew and Luke, First Corinthians, First and Second Thessalonians, etc. However, the best picture is found in the book of Revelation. To set those books aside and resort to a message absolutely given to the ten northern tribes of Israel is a biblical nightmare.  It is utterly contrary to the sound biblical doctrines of the End Times. There may be many similarities but the fulfillment is totally different. We are at the door of the Anti-Christ revelation and the seven years of the Great Tribulation but that finds no place in Cahn’s Theology. But, the greater picture is seen in the unnamed, unknown and unseen (except to the author) of this mysterious prophet that must be credited with the total message of the book. The complete message rests upon our confidence in this prophet as told by the author.  There is no possibility of rightly calling this man that is appearing to Jonathan Cahn a prophet. Maybe we could call him a spirit, but if so, is he a holy angel or an unclean spirit? The only way we can discern this prophet’s quality is by his actions and words because there is no additional data about him. Remember, we are emphatically told, “know them which labour among you”. (I Thessalonians 5:12) Every prophet in the Bible was an extraordinary man. They had names, families, backgrounds, and personalities. They ate and lived among the people that believed in them. They spoke the truths of God in a clear voice, with signs and wonders that were real and life changing.  There is not a single case in which these Bible prophets represented any character or conduct of the occult world. Yet this unknown voice or prophet is involved in almost every characteristic of the esoteric world. It is evidence that he travels by Astral Travel. He has the power to determine the location of the documentations to prove his theories. This prophet is clearly unlimited by natural limitations. Over and over he is Psychic in each appearance and action. When one makes a strong effort to analyze a book of this nature and popularity, they can expect a barrage of criticism. I accept the criticism gladly. I have not and would not speak one unkind word concerning Rabbi Jonathan Cahn. I love the Jewish people with a passion. I have made an effort to reach him several times. My name and number was left for them each time. I called Charisma Publishers several times and finally was able to speak to a secretary. I have yet to receive a response. My critique of this book stands and I will pray for one and all those that reject the book and those that believe it. Let me guote a dear brother I just met that wrote a powerful “Review and Commentary” on “The Harbinger”. There is a link to his Review at the conclusion of the quote. “Missing Harbinger? Though just a few verses away from “The Isaiah 9:10 Effect,” conspicuously absent from The Harbinger is any emphasis upon “the prophet who teaches falsehood” (Isaiah 9:15). Yet, this too was an ingredient which explains why divine judgment loomed over Israel. The influence of these prophets was pervasive, and at the time the bricks fell their message had saturated the nation, even to the extent of affecting the spiritual well-being of young men, widows and orphans (Isaiah 9:17).  On this point, the parallel between ancient Israel and modern America can be noted. Equal to the financial bankruptcy our American economy faces (false profits), is the spiritual bankruptcy this nation faces for reason of the proliferation of false teachings (false prophets). Even though Jesus (Matthew 24:11, 24), Paul (Acts 20:29-31), Peter (2 Peter 2:1-22), John (1 John 2:18-19), and other New Testament writers (Jude 4) warned that false prophets would proliferate in the last days, Cahn gives scant, if any attention, to this “harbinger” of divine judgment. Though the author constructs his story around the prophet, he has nothing to say about false prophets, even though his book may have been endorsed by one.(TH, Front Matters) Jeremiah and other prophets noted that a great reason for Israel’s destruction was that the nation, while it rejected the true messengers the Lord sent them, chose instead to listen to the messengers He did not send, prophets who saw “false” visions and dreams, prophesied “lies,” and peddled the “deceit” of their hearts to God’s people (Isaiah 9:15; Jeremiah 14:14; 23:16, 30-32; Ezekiel 12:21-13:23).” (Pastor Larry DeBruyn, Click for his complete Article.) THIS NEW SERIES ENTITLED, “THE HARBINGER: A BOOK OF LUCIFERIAN DELUSION” WILL CONTINUE THIS SATURDAY. THIS SATURDAY’S SUBJECT WILL BE “THE HARBINGER, A FORBIDDEN FABLE” I am overwhelmed with the church’s utter lack of discernment. The so-called prophet in this book is possessed with all the characteristics of the occult. Almost every action of a Psychic Practitioner is evident. His use of Scriptures from Jewish history and the application of those Scriptures to the New Testament era is “Replacement Theology”. His close connections to Rick Joyner, Jim Bakker, and Sid Roth is enough to warn any careful person. There is not one reference in this book to a single truth that is the heartthrob of End Time Prophecy.  The Rapture, the Antichrist, The Nation of Israel’s future Kingdom, The Battle Of Armageddon, the Seven Year Tribulation or the Millennium are never named one time.  A special article documenting every fact that we will discuss will be free to every listener. This Broadcast is live all over the world. Go to our Home page to stream live or download from the archives. Call 1 704 391 0588 or 1 800 338 7884. Our e-mail is Posted in Prophetic News Alerts, Salty Saints | 21 Comments »
  Report to Mod - Link to Post - Back to Top  IP:  Logged
   [Search This Thread] [Add Bookmark] [Add Poll] [Reply] [Share Topic] [Print]
Read more:


Search This Blog